Ever since I had Luísa and she started to give me “work”, I´ve been struggling with how to educate her. I struggle with the word education too. It means a lot, but here I want to focus on making a child obey or behave.
Children don´t really misbehave. They engage in behavior to pursue normal children´s need. The misbehavior is an adult judgement of a child´s action that is contrary to what the adult expects. What we commonly call as misbehavior is often a symptom of a child´s need and we are to meet that need somehow.
Well, I always felt uneasy with the time-outs. I´ve read in many books about how you can start controlling children´s misbehavior by putting them in time-out (check any mainstream book or TV show on parenting).
I´ve read that you can consider one minute per year and start at the age of two. By the time Luísa was around 1,5 years, I was being told more and more often about how I should start disciplining her and how if I didn´t start then I could lose my authority for good.
I agree that we must set limits, this is out of question. The problem is how to set these limits. People offered me only the behaviorism approach, rewards and punishments, that didn´t speak to my heart. So, I didn´t know what to do, it´s true.
Usually, people have nothing to show for their experience beyond having a kid well adjusted to the system (but the system is so sick that I really don´t mind Luísa to be a bit maladjusted). Or a kid that responds to their demands, but keep misbehaving later, I´m not comfortable with the way the traditional parenting approach turns out.
So, what a relief that after some diligent research on what I call alternative methods of education (meaning not what we see in the majority of schools, homes and books). I find all this information on Unschooling, Mindful Parenting, Attachment Parenting and RIE approach, just to name a few.
Finaly I´m in contact with all this guidelines to not use time-outs, like Dr Peter Haiman explains in The Case Against Time Out about the disadvantages of the practice (like increasing the child´s frustration that can lead her to “misbehave” more and what she feels when being left alone, separated from the parents who she must rely upon to meet her needs).
These ideas are so revolutionary!
For some, it´s hard to take these approaches in at first, because the first question (more like an accusation) is: “So, how do you discipline kids then?”
We listen to them, we prevent them from damaging stuff or hurting people, we hug and basically we connect to their needs (in opposition to teaching them lessons all the time).
We don´t need time-outs to mold our children´s behavior. We can teach them to communicate their needs. Of course in the beginning (meaning the first years of a child´s life) this will be hard, because young children are learning how to control themselves, their motor skills and their impulses to act in one way or another.
It requires much patience and trust
It means you get stuck when your child is reacting in a way that is counterproductive to the family routine. It means talking and explaining things, in the beginning to children that might not really have a good grasp of what you are talking about, but by seeing you act gently, compassionately, especially playfull the message you want to pass will go through.
I´ll dig into these alternative methods which basically bring us down to listen to kids more (than what we are used to see in our society), find their needs and attend them with all the love and respect (oddly enough, we have to learn to respect children, traditionaly we haven´t practiced this much).
There is so much information out there to help us be gentler in our approach to education. Going beyond behaviorism is the way to do it.



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Agree agree agree.
Great article! Glad to come by your blog.
Hi! I love your blog! I love the photos of you and Louisa and I love reading about the lifestyle here. I like all of the info and agree about the nakey bum issue. Let them be naked for godsake! I, too, succomb to the cultural (and grandparent!) pressure and cover Tula up. Bum Bummer! See you at pipas!
While I agree with the thoughts in this post–it just doesn’t work for everyone.
As a twin mom, my needs are different. I can’t just focus on one child at a time. I can’t always make sure they are BOTH staying out of danger when they are running in two opposite directions and there is only one of me. So, I have used one minute time outs. I talk to them about why we are doing it and when the minute is up I scoop up my boy, shower him with kisses, tell him how much I love him and that he needs to listen to mommy.
I don’t think I’m crushing his spirit, but by encouraging him to listen to me and follow the rules, I AM helping to create a safe environment for both of my boys.
I think sometimes, you have to do what is right for your family. One size does not fit all.
Absolutely! Yesterday I was reading your blog and the stories of all the twin mothers with their todlers at the park. You guys have it really tough. It looks like you are doing what you have to do with your boys. I don´t like time outs, but I see how having two at the same time requires a more rigid structure to have them at least safe, which is our first priority. It´s much more chalenging than having a lot of time with a one on one.
Exactly what I needed today, I keep discovering so many things on your blog, will have to take more time for it once I’ll be on the road!
hey marillia, long time. was perusing your blog, so many things to say. i have had the above debate with a few friends, i am not really a believer in explaining to children when they have done wrong. how do you explain to a 2 year old that playing with a knife is dangourous. for me it confuses them, lot of words no real clear message. sadie (2 1/2) gets flicks on the fingers if she is bullying her wee sis or doing something stupid. the message is instant, relates directly and immediately to the offence and is clear as day. i don’t think it hurts much (you may have to ask her on that one) but it seems effective. when she is throwing her toys (temper tantrum) or being very bad she gets asked if she wants to go out (probably like a time out) if she continues she goes and then isn’t allowed back until she stops crying. when she stops crying often she has to say sorry but usually gets a hug and forgiveness. i think little children need a basic form of dicipline/behavior modification/whatever as their understanding of the world is still very basic. as they get older and can understand more you can introduce more complex ways of trying to teach them your versions of right and wrong.
i think the main thing is not letting your anger enter into the way you dicipline your kids. you may go into this in your aggression article i haven’t read it yet. anyway a blokes view on what i see is a very oestrogen dominated blog… hope you are well. bub looks georgous!
Hey Conrad, nice to see you around! I guess what you do with your girl, asking her to stay outside until she is calm, is not exacly a time out, it’s more like giving her room to calm down. It’s not exacly punishment to have someone to cool off, right?
I agree that in dangerous situations, there’s no time and need to be explaining much, but for more ordinary things, yes. Now, different strategies will make children comply, but we have to think of the long term results of our aproaches. When we are using punishments and rewards, for instance, our kids might do what we want when we are around, but when we are not…
I’m just learning about this all anyway, and I sure use the old methods too, more unconsiously than I’d like it to happen.
I sort of love and hate this topic! I relate most to the concepts in attachment parenting, especially the idea that discipline is not “punishiment”, that even breastfeeding, baby wearing, etc contributes to healthy discipline by helping you develop a deeper understanding of your wee person’s needs, how to communicate with them, how to read them – and they learn the same about you, all helping to peacefully negotiate alternative behaviours. I have dabbled in more “alternative” notions of permissive parenting and many times I look at the parents practicing them and think, “Goddess, how do they stand to be around their children.” When asked this question in a slightly more diplomatic way, I have often gotten answers like, “yeah, but they’ll turn out ok.” – Well, except that if they were mine I might kill them in a slightly undiplomatic rage.
So how to develop that balance? Will I really damage my child’s soul by asking them to not treat me (and others) like a sack of shit? – as many people seem to interpret permissive parenting styles. Many hours of pondering this later… I try to think of my children as small people, entering in to the world not dis-similarly able to comprehend compassion, justice, the need to be respected. The key here being “able to comprehend”. That recognition helps me remember that I am indeed dealing with people – who may one day rightfully call me on my poor methods if I am not careful. On the other hand, I have seen children that call to mind Conrad’s Lord of the Flies! So when I discipline my children I try to make the lessons – and I try always to think of them as lessons, lest they be useless, a waste of our time and energy – completely correspondent to the infringement. Infringements I try to think of as things that they have done that are inconsiderate to the people (or animals) they live with. If they are not hurting anyone, do they really matter? Does it really matter in society if our actions to not hurt anyone (wouldn’t it be nice if it were so easy and logical!). And it may be that I need a greater measure of quiet in my house for sanity than mother X – but then, that is the nature of living with others. I also take a few liberties because I am responsible for the functioning of our lives on a basic, needs-meeting level and so sometimes I may have to rest at the expense of something my kids want to do, or I may say, “OK, tonight it’s my night to pick dinner because I cook it and I have had a long day…” Sometimes I even go so far as to justify impatient behaviour on my part but this may not be entirely unjustified as long as I recognize that they will have similar days and I will need to respect them being less than gracious in their attitude. But still, I try to respect them like I would like to be respected and like I hope they will respect me when they are older and we are more equal in experience and function.
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